Charlie and Makia discuss
Charlie Robinson’s conversation with Makia Freeman is a sprawling deep-dive into what they frame as a single, millennia-old, Sabbatean-Frankist death-cult that now, via banking dynasties, satanic secret societies and Zionist geopolitics, pulls the strings of world events. Below are the most significant and surprising take-aways:

- The Rothschild Moment (1750-1800) – when counterfeit became conquest
Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s five sons did not simply open banks in Europe’s capitals; they privatised money-creation itself. By issuing notes far in excess of any gold backing and lending to kings, they turned the power to issue currency into the power to issue orders to monarchs. Within two generations the family could make or break empires, yet the bigger surprise is why they wanted that power: not merely for riches but to eradicate every rival centre of loyalty—monarchy, church, nation, family—so that only the cult’s credit-based control grid would remain. - The Sabbatean-Frankist Reversal – the licence to invert morality
The spiritual engine behind the Rothschild rise is, they argue, a heretical messianic cult that literally reverses Torah ethics.
- Sabbatai Zevi (self-declared messiah, 1666) taught that after his “revealed” messianic age every prohibition becomes mandatory: adultery, incest, ritual desecration.
Jacob Frank (1726-1791) took the inversion further—orgies, child sacrifice, literal Satanism—then pitched the cult to the Rothschilds as the perfect recruitment filter: anyone willing to rape or torture on camera is controllable for life.
Most startling: Frank’s followers did not “pretend” to convert to Christianity or Islam; the doctrine commands public apostasy while secretly retaining the antinomian creed. Modern crypto-Frankists are said to populate parliaments, boards and think-tanks, outwardly secular or Christian, inwardly bound to the death-cult.
- Infiltration Formula – how 3-5 % can steer 100 %
The pair outline a repeatable playbook:
a) Insert initiated agents into an existing body (Freemasonry, Jesuits, intelligence agencies, environmental NGOs).
b) Promote only those willing to blackmail or be blackmailed.
c) Once the leadership tier is captured, re-write the purpose of the host organisation.
They claim this is how the original Bavarian Illuminati (1776) turned Masonic lodges into revolutionary cells, why modern WEF “Young Global Leaders” suddenly run finance ministries, and how climate NGOs now push depopulation instead of saving pandas. - Israel is not just a state—it is the cult’s current “headquarters”
Freeman drops a bombshell: Israel’s 1948 creation was the colonial fulfilment of Frankist-Rothschild prophecy, not mere Zionist aspiration. Evidence cited:
- Every Israeli prime minister with Eastern-European (Khazarian) roots is painted as a Frankist descendant, genetically unrelated to ancient Hebrews but obsessed with Temple-Mount rebuild and red-heifer sacrifice.
- Greater Israel maps on IDF uniforms mirror the Oded-Yinon plan to balkanise the Arab world.
- Ukraine’s war is a parallel project: flatten the country, depopulate it, then resurrect a new “Khazaria” as a second, European safe-zone for the cult if the Middle-Eastern one ever becomes untenable.
- World War III is already on the schedule
Using Albert Pike’s alleged 1871 letter, they argue the clash between Zionism and Islam is the desired trigger. Nord-Stream’s sabotage is previewed as a German sacrifice to keep Russia and Germany from ever economically integrating; the Gaza genocide is intended to provoke an Iranian response that drags the U.S. into a Greater Middle-East war, while simultaneous Ukrainian escalation keeps Russia pinned on a second front. - Environmentalism as stealth eugenics
The Club of Rome, World Wildlife Fund (Prince Philip “I want to reincarnate as a virus” quote), and UN climate frameworks are shown as intellectual heirs of the same British-round-table/Rothschild circles that earlier pushed racial eugenics. “Humans are the virus” is not metaphor; it is, they contend, public-relations prep for engineered famine, sterilants in vaccines, and energy-rationing that guarantees a 500-million global population ceiling—the figure carved on the now-destroyed Georgia Guidestones. - Non-human component – shape-shifting as initiation marker
Both men insist the cult’s inner core believe they are vessels for inter-dimensional reptilian entities that feed on human suffering. Epstein’s “orgasmic shape-shift” and Billy Corgan’s private account are cited as eyewitness testimony that the elite literally phase out of human form during ritual climax. While sounding outlandish, they stress: whether or not the audience believes it, the perpetrators do, and that belief motivates blood-lines to protect “blue-blood” copper-based physiology via millennia of cousin marriage, ritual abortions, and adrenochrome harvesting. - 2026 flash-points – why Canada, Greenland and Panama matter
Trump’s “Gulf of America” rhetoric, Elon Musk’s DOGE, and Mark Carney’s overnight coronation as Canada’s PM are read as the re-animation of 1930s Technocracy plans—a regional super-state (the “Technate”) stretching from Greenland to Venezuela, run by AI-driven energy credits instead of dollars, with digital passports locking every transaction to a carbon-rationing algorithm. Once Canada is folded in, the North-American Union becomes the test-bed for a global social-credit grid that the Sabbatean-Frankist cult can throttle at will. - Bottom line – history is a one-act play, encore tonight
Freeman’s closing thesis: all apparently competing factions—Jesuits, Zionists, Nazis, Communists, WEF, Neocons—are masks on the same face. The true war is not Left vs. Right, or even nation vs. nation; it is a tiny, self-identified “messianic” in-group versus conscious human autonomy. The surprise is how openly the script is now being staged: blown-up pipelines, genocide live-streamed on Tik-Tok, a former central banker installed as Canadian PM without an election, and mainstream media still debating partisan optics while, in their view, the final act of the centuries-old death-cult opera begins.