Dan Waits and Greg

1. Mystics Dying at Major Conjunctions

Dan observes a pattern where prominent mystics and magicians die during significant planetary conjunctions — "seed moments" that initiate new cycles:

• Madame Blavatsky died in 1891 during a rare Pluto–Neptune conjunction (these occur every ~500 years)
• Aleister Crowley died in 1947 during a Saturn–Pluto conjunction
• Paramahansa Yogananda died in 1952 during a Saturn–Neptune conjunction
• Gordon White (recently deceased) coincided with a Saturn–Neptune conjunction
• Peter J. Carroll (chaos magician) also passed within the same ragtime as Gordon White

Dan's theory: these figures may "inject spiritual energy into the zeitgeist" at these seed moments, which is then carried forward through the cycle that follows.

2. Gordon White's Astrological Forewarning

Greg highlights a moment from Gordon White's last forecast with Austin Coppock where they discussed the Mars–Saturn conjunction in May (in Aries). Gordon acknowledged his own birth chart had the Moon in Aries in the sixth house (house of illness), saying "there'll be some self-care come June." He died in May. Dan notes the planetary pile-up in Aries was significant — Mars, Saturn, Mercury, and Neptune all present.

3. Academic Aversion to Astrology

• Mainstream academia and figures like Neil deGrasse Tyson treat astrology with hostility — not just dismissal but emotional rage
• Dan attributes this to a psychological defence mechanism: living in a "dark, spiritless, meaningless mechanistic cosmos" exacts a heavy toll, and those who embrace it resent those who seek to escape it
• Many professional astrologers avoid conspiratorial topics to gain respectability from the "professional-managerial class"
• This creates a divide between astrology and ufology, despite both being marginalised knowledge systems
• Dan's route into conspiracy: once you realise astrology works, you realise "the standard narratives about how the world works are wrong"

4. The Hermetic Age Series (Substack)

Dan's essay series exploring alternative history through astrology, centred on the Pluto–Neptune synodic cycle (500-year cycle):

• Since 1398–1399, these conjunctions have occurred in Gemini (ruled by Mercury/Hermes)
• This signified a shift from landowners and priests to bankers, merchants, and traders as the dominant power
• The cycle embeds a structural dual track: secret/hidden knowledge vs public knowledge
• Joseph P. Farrell's research: Henry Sinclair's secret voyage to America in 1398 (same year as the conjunction); elite Venetian families (e.g. the Benes) allegedly knew of America's existence and suppressed this knowledge for nearly a century, relocating capital to Atlantic-facing states (England, Portugal, Spain) before Columbus made the discovery public
• The current cycle began in the 1890s and continues to shape the modern era

5. Saturn–Jupiter Great Conjunction and the Air Element

• The Great Conjunction shifted into the air element in 2020 after 200 years in earth
• This marks a ~200-year era of non-physical, informational themes
• Manifestations already seen:
  • COVID-19 as an airborne virus
  • Masks over the mouth (air)
  • "I can't breathe" / knee on the neck (air-related)
  • Digital currency (non-physical)
  • UFOs and alien disclosure (in the air)
  • Surveillance and AI (not physical)
• This "Air Age" overlays the existing Gemini-driven information age, accelerating a hyper-informational society
• These themes expected to continue for ~194 more years

6. Saturn–Neptune at Zero Degrees Aries — The 6,000-Year Reset

• A rare Saturn–Neptune conjunction at 0° Aries (the first degree of the entire zodiac)
• The last time this occurred was 4360 BC, coinciding with:
  • The rise of ancient Sumer
  • The founding of Uruk
  • The invention of the cylinder seal — one of the earliest known identity/authentication technologies
• The current alignment correlates with the global rollout of digital IDs, AI, CBDCs (central bank digital currencies), stablecoins, and what may become a new global control grid
• Dan's argument: identity is written into this degree of the zodiac, and the parallel between cylinder seals and digital ID is an exact thematic match across different technological ages
• Saturn–Neptune conjunctions occur every 36 years and tend to indicate a new idea about how the world is structured (e.g. 1989 = fall of the Berlin Wall, unipolar "rules-based international order")

7. Existential Angst and the Freedom of Conspiracy Thinking

• Dan shares personal experience: before astrology, he suffered existential angst from the materialist worldview of a "dead cosmos"
• Gordon White's life work included raging against this dead-cosmos narrative
• The conspiratorial mindset can provide relief — viewing world events as calculated "psyops" rather than random chaos allows people to step back from the news cycle with more detachment
• Greg notes that COVID flipped the archetype: the "conspiracy mindset" became the one living normally, while system-trusters appeared to be acting crazily

8. Elite Use of Astrology

• JP Morgan famously used astrologer Evangeline Adams; his attributed quote: "Millionaires don't use astrology, billionaires do"
• Ronald Reagan is another well-known example
• WWII: both sides used astrology; Churchill reportedly monitored Hitler's astrological timing whether he believed in it or not
• Farrell's Babylon's Banksters: the "money power" has always tried to monopolise knowledge of the stars, attaching itself to the temple going back to ancient Babylon
• Finance professionals are often open to astrology because they work with cycles and markets
• Newspaper horoscopes serve as a "blind" — a deliberate simplification that makes the public view astrology as a joke, gatekeeping the complex, powerful techniques

9. UFO Disclosure and 2026 Predictions

• Dan predicted in August 2023 that UFO disclosure would happen around 2026 based on planetary cycles
• He maintains healthy scepticism — disclosure may involve deception or a "limited hangout"
• The Disclosure Day movie was criticised as propaganda; Greg notes the pattern of privileged directors/studios producing content that supports mainstream narratives

10. Mystery Airships of 1896 and HG Wells

• The Pluto–Neptune conjunction of the 1890s coincided with the Mystery Airship wave of 1896–1897 — strange craft reported across the US, hundreds of newspaper reports
• An "embryonic archetypal reflection" of the UFO phenomenon
• HG Wells published The War of the Worlds in the 1890s, seeding the concept of technologically superior alien invaders into the collective consciousness
• Connection to Joseph Farrell's "breakaway civilisation" concept

11. Uranus–Neptune Cycle (1993) — Institutional Disclosure

• The Uranus–Neptune synodic cycle began in 1993 in Capricorn (170-year cycle)
• This period saw:
  • The launch of the Worldwide Web
  • Steven Greer's Disclosure Project
  • The premiere of The X-Files
• Because the cycle started in Capricorn (sign of institutions), the narrative focused on government insiders, military whistleblowers, and FBI agents rather than individual spiritual connection to the phenomenon
• Uranus–Neptune cycles relate to new faiths and belief systems entering the world
• Dan emphasises the need to triangulate multiple signals rather than predict from a single piece of evidence

12. Saturn–Neptune Visitations: Fatima, Bledsoe, and 1952

• Saturn–Neptune conjunctions may thin the veil between realities:
  • Saturn = materialisation, pressurising, crystallising force
  • Neptune = dreams, faith, imagination, the ideal — "not of this world"
  • Together: concrete reality becomes less reliable; strange events and visitations more frequent
• 1917: Miracle of Fatima (the "Miracle of the Sun") — Jacques Vallée argued this should be folded into ufology
• 1952–53: Washington D.C. UFO flyovers (two weekends of craft/lights around the capital); Robertson Panel established; MKUltra established
• 1989: Belgian UFO wave; Bob Lazar emerges; Area 51 mythos seeded
• Chris Bledsoe's encounter with the "Lady of Light": parallels with Fatima — a lady in white, prophecy communicated, UFO associations, suggestion of new knowledge to be revealed
  • Dan corrects: Bledsoe's first encounter was in 2013, not during a Saturn–Neptune conjunction year, but the current year's conjunction aligns with his predicted event

13. Regulus, the Sphinx, and Virgo Precession

• The Bledsoe prophecy: "when the red star of Regulus rises in the gaze of the Sphinx, new knowledge will come into the world"
• Dan investigated and found:
  • Regulus is not actually red — it appears mostly blue
  • The prophecy likely refers to the heliacal rising of Regulus (first visible in morning sky before sunrise)
  • Dan calculated this occurs in early September, not October as some have claimed
• The star Regulus precessed into the sign of Virgo in late 2012 — first time in ~2,100 years (it had been in Leo)
• Virgo is the only zodiac sign that is the image of a maiden/lady
• Chris Bledsoe had his first encounter with a divine feminine figure in 2013 — "a blink of an eye" after this 2,100-year stellar shift
• Dan found this "mind-blowing" — the star the Lady herself refers to moved into the only sign represented by a maiden, immediately before the encounter

14. Intelligence Agency Logos and a Second Sphinx

• US intelligence agencies at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base — including the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (NASIC) and National Space Intelligence Center (NSIC) — use logos featuring a Sphinx gazing at a star
• One of these logos dates from 1994, well before the Bledsoe story emerged
• Dan finds this deeply significant: it suggests these agencies may have had prior knowledge of this prophecy
• Recent archaeological scans in Egypt reportedly identified massive structures and a potential "second Sphinx" beneath the Giza plateau
• A researcher (Greg suggests the name "Philippe Lheureux" or similar) claimed he would reveal evidence of a second Sphinx around the summer solstice
• Potential connection to Edgar Cayce's prophecy of a "Hall of Records" beneath the paw of the Sphinx

15. Birth Charts of Deceased Mystics and the August Eclipse

• Birth charts continue to "run" and respond to transits even after death — a well-studied phenomenon in astrology
• An eclipse on 12 August at 20° Leo triggers sensitive points in the charts of:
  • Edgar Cayce (hits his ascendant)
  • Helena Blavatsky
  • Rudolf Steiner
  • G.I. Gurdjieff (referred to as "she or a bin though" in the transcript — likely a transcription error)
• All these figures discussed Atlantis, previous cycles of humanity, and Egyptian mysteries
• Dan notes heavy Neptune influence at present, making him wary of firm predictions on "slippery topics"

16. World (Mundane) Astrology

• Most astrologers focus on individual/personal astrology (natal chart readings); few specialise in world/mundane astrology
• World astrology requires deep understanding of global events — "garbage in, garbage out": if you apply techniques to false information about the world, you get poor results
• This is what drew Dan to conspiracy: astrology reveals hidden structure to reality, so it made no sense to then rely on mainstream media narratives that deny such structure
• Greg's framing: "if you're a conventional thinker, you're working with a bad template — the propaganda template — and then trying to apply the stars. You can't fool the stars; they have to be applied to the truth or something much closer to it"

17. Timing Techniques Explained

Dan outlines three main timing techniques:

18. How Astrology Works — Mechanism vs Geometry

• Critics' "killer blow": no plausible mechanism has been identified, therefore astrology doesn't work
• Dan's counter: astrology is fundamentally a science of consciousness — it describes the "warp and weft" of conscious experience over time
• Science hasn't explained consciousness either; "trying to explain how astrology works without an understanding of consciousness is like trying to explain the tides without knowing what water is"
• The demand for a "mechanism" is materialist language assuming the universe is a great machine
• Dan points to natural geometry: the Golden Ratio, Fibonacci sequence, and the Titius–Bode Law (a formula predicting planetary spacing that works until Neptune, and predicts a planet where the asteroid belt is)
• Astrology suggests there is natural geometry not just to matter in space but also to events in time — the same rhythms embedded in nature via planets are also embedded in conscious experience
• A Platonist view: the material cosmos is a projection from higher dimensions; the "mechanism" likely exists in realms inaccessible to materialist inquiry
• Dan's conclusion: we will never figure it out so long as we assume the fundamental substrate is matter rather than consciousness

19. Planetary Spirits and Archetypal Principles

• Greg poses a thought experiment: if Mars were physically destroyed, would aggression disappear from human experience?
• Dan's answer: the principle of Mars would remain — physical planets are like "the bones or skeletons of big powerful spiritual principles/archetypal principles"
• Echoes Rudolf Steiner's teaching: when you look at a planet, you're seeing only the "bone" — there is spirit within
• Gordon White's analogy (via ayahuasca): the spirit of ayahuasca is not in the vine; the vine is the small part that "spills into physical reality" — like seeing only an animal's tail
• The human body is a receiver for a signal originating in non-physical dream space / the spirit world

20. Christopher Bache and Planetary Entities

• Christopher Bache, a religious studies professor, documented ~70 high-dose LSD sessions over ~30 years in his book LSD and the Mind of the Universe
• Sessions involved horrific periods of purification (being "torn apart by demons," experiencing every murder and dismemberment in history)
• After purification, he described encountering "behemoth" entities — enormous, planetary-scale beings that appear to generate reality
• Humans live through them and they through us; reality is generated by these massive entities doing battle in a mythical domain
• Dan suggests this may be closer to how astrology actually works — and that exploring these realms (including via psychedelics) may be necessary to understand it

21. Robert Temple, Plasma Consciousness, and the Corpus Hermeticum

• Robert Temple's book A New Science in the Heavens: 99.999% of the cosmos is plasma, and plasma appears to be conscious — plasmas as long as the Milky Way exist in space
• If these are conscious, they may be the actual creators of reality
• The Corpus Hermeticum: ancient texts combining Greek, Christian, and Egyptian philosophies, attributed to Hermes Trismegistus (likely a pseudonym)
• Cosimo de' Medici acquired a manuscript and had his translator stop work on Plato to translate this instead — showing what elite banking dynasties valued most
• Contains the three hermetic arts:

• Dan has studied astrological magic (manufacture of talismans by choosing the exact correct moment to capture an astrological influence into an object) but has not deeply practised alchemy or theurgy

22. Spiritual Alchemy and Don Nance

• Alchemy is misunderstood as merely turning lead into gold; it is primarily a spiritual practice for the transformation of consciousness
• Physical procedures have analogs in internal spiritual processes
• Don Nance, a modern alchemist, described a substance he called "dragon blood" — he warned that taking it requires extreme mental discipline because "all your thoughts will start to manifest"
• He recounted a woman who took a couple of drops and ruined her life because negative thoughts manifested physically
• Greg notes that mastering all three hermetic arts would require going back to a time before constant entertainment — deep daily study of the environment

23. Strait of Hormuz, Energy Crisis, and 2028 Food Shortages

• Disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz and refinery fires correlate with the Mars–Saturn conjunction in Aries (April)
• The energy crisis is "baked in" for at least a couple of years
• Dan flags 2028 as a potential concern for food shortages: Saturn moves into Taurus (the sign of the harvest, the bounty of the earth) from spring 2028 through ~2030–2031
• Saturn in Taurus historically indicates limits, shortages, and pressure on farming and food systems

24. Outer Planet Alignment (2025–2029) and Historical Parallels

• A rare three-way harmonious alignment of Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto is occurring through ~2029 — described as a "minor grand trine" (Uranus and Pluto in trine, Neptune making sextiles to both)
• The last similar alignment was in the 1770s, coinciding with:
  • The American Revolution
  • The signing of the Declaration of Independence
  • The dawn of the Industrial Revolution
• These occur roughly every 250–500 years
• Dan cautions against overemphasising the "harmonious" nature: harmonious aspects between disruptive planets create rapid change, which can be destructive
• He does NOT expect total World War III annihilation — the cycles are in waxing (expansion) phases, which doesn't fit total destruction
• Instead, he expects a "Cold War" period (through ~2032–2035): conflicts breaking out in different places, Cuban Missile Crisis-style scary moments, geopolitical division, and a growing divide between those embracing transhumanism and those resisting it

25. Technocracy as "Strength Training for the Soul"

• The digital control grid/technocratic society is something humanity has to pass through for conscious growth
• Dan frames it as "strength training for the soul" — humanity must figure out how to retain spirit, soul, and psi abilities within a highly technical environment
• A counter-trend of spiritual resistance will grow but will be the "junior partner" for some time, potentially becoming dominant over decades or centuries
• Things will "feel hairy" and may be "sold as the end of the world" but Dan believes "we'll be alright"

26. Pluto in Aquarius (until 2043)

• Pluto has settled into Aquarius until 2043
• Aquarius rules the masses, technology, and networks; Pluto rules power struggles and deep upheaval
• The last time Pluto was in Aquarius: the American Revolution, French Revolution, and Protestant Reformation
• Greg's hopeful speculation: will we see a revolt against data centres and digital IDs?

27. Traumatic Energy Suppression Pattern

Greg observes a pattern where collective optimism or significant calendar shifts are suppressed by dark/tragic events:

• Y2K panic dwarfed the excitement of the calendar turning to 2000
• 9/11 hit when it did to become the event of the "official new millennium"
• COVID in 2020 and Sandy Hook wrapped in the Christmas season of 2012 (when December 21, 2012 was a culturally anticipated date)
• Greg flags the upcoming 4th of July (America's 250th birthday) and the Roswell anniversary (July 8th, 79th anniversary) as potentially charged windows

28. Gordon White's Legacy and Political Capture of the Occult Community

• Greg's extended reflection (in the post-interview segment) on Gordon White's marginalisation within the magical community
• Gordon was labelled a "dirty right-wing conspiracy theorist anti-vaxxer" because he:
  • Saw human trafficking as a real problem
  • Saw COVID as an operation
  • Viewed vaccines as dangerous
  • Never took mass trauma events at face value
  • Saw the elite as psychopaths with depraved behaviour
• Greg criticises the "political capture" of the occult community — people who value magic and sacred knowledge yet align with one half of the political spectrum
• Uses Aesop's fable "The Fox and the Grapes" as an analogy for how Gordon's critics dismiss his scholarly courses
• Notes that Dan receives similar criticism from "mainstream astrology"

Key Lists from the Transcript

Significant Planetary Cycles Discussed

Historical Events Linked to Astrological Configurations

Three Hermetic Arts

Astrological Timing Techniques

Notable Figures Mentioned

Key Dates and Predictions Summary

All points above are drawn directly from the transcript content. No information has been added beyond what Dan Waits and Greg Carlwood stated in the interview.