Jamie Andrews

Background and Personal Journeys

Jamie Andrews moved to southwest France, near Bordeaux, approximately eight years before the interview, motivated by what he saw during the Brexit debates of 2016 — he felt the public was being 'kettled' into a remain/leave dichotomy that served as cover for a broader political agenda. He bought a maison de maître with cheap land and has been renovating it himself: he replaced the roof, installed a septic tank, and moved in December 2019 with a newborn, with no running water — hot or cold.

Jamie Andrews — Podcasts

Jamie Andrews doesn’t believe in viruses or DNA or what passes for ‘science’ generally these days. He thinks they’re all part of a hoax perpetrated since 1660 b

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Andrews attended King's School, Canterbury, the oldest Protestant school in the world, situated in the cloisters of Canterbury Cathedral. A formative influence was a fundamentalist Christian biology teacher who believed the Earth was flat and 4,000 years old, yet taught the GCSE evolution and biology curriculum. Andrews says this juxtaposition planted the seeds of his later questioning of all scientific dogma. He took biology, chemistry, physics, geography, and geology at A level, then geology at Durham University (Hatfield College), where he attended fewer than 5% of his lectures. He spent roughly ten years on the periphery of the music industry, doing engineering work at Real World Studios (Peter Gabriel's studio in Bath) and Assault and Battery Studios in London, before leaving, describing the industry as 'sick and satanic.'

Andrews credits Delingpole's early climate-scepticism work — particularly coverage of the University of East Anglia scandal (Climategate) — as an inspiration during his time as a geology undergraduate. Delingpole reflects that he was 'pretty much a normie' when he began investigating climate change, and that climate scepticism was his 'first taste of going outside the Overton window.' He describes media censorship as operating not through direct editorial edicts but through self-censorship and groupthink — freelance journalists simply stop getting commissioned on verboten topics.

Rejection of Institutional Science

Andrews makes a sweeping claim that mainstream science functions as a marketing and control structure created by the Royal Society (which he ties to the Crown) to replace God with a secular priesthood of scientists. Key assertions:

• 90% of GCSE and A-level science topics were invented in the 1800s and 1900s and are directly linked to the Royal Society — including evolution, survival of the fittest, atomism, the periodic table, germ theory, cell biology, and elements of physics and astronomy.
• He considers the laws of thermodynamics to be tautologies — basic logical observations rather than profound discoveries.
• He argues that when physics invokes concepts like 'spooky action at a distance' to explain gravity, it mirrors religious language ('science works in mysterious ways' as a parallel to 'God works in mysterious ways').

Claims About DNA

Andrews disputes the existence or significance of DNA as commonly understood:

• Scientists have never directly observed the double helix under a microscope, yet claim there is enough DNA in the human body to reach Pluto and back 17 times.
• He replicated the school strawberry DNA extraction experiment without the detergent or salt — the stringy precipitate still appeared, which he argues undermines the claim that the extracted material is uniquely 'the building blocks of life.'
• He characterises Watson and Crick as having taken LSD and 'fraternising with all the girls,' suggesting their work has the hallmarks of establishment careerism.
• He dismisses GMO crops as selective breeding rather than genuine genetic engineering — taking naturally hardy or high-yield varieties and cross-pollinating them, which he says is 'all in nature' and has 'nothing to do with DNA.'
• He challenges: if genetic engineering is real, 'bring me back a dinosaur' or create a frost-resistant orange — neither of which, he says, has been achieved.

Virology Control Studies Project

Andrews runs the Virology Control Studies project, which is open-source and crowdfunded, commissioning independent accredited laboratories (mostly in the US) to run control experiments on standard virology protocols.

He claims the standard protocol instructs technicians to starve the cells by removing the nutrient serum when the supposed infected material is added, and the resulting cell death is then blamed on a virus. In his control, with no virus present, the cells died in the same way, producing cellular debris (vesicles) that appeared identical to images of Ebola, smallpox, chickenpox, HIV, and SARS-CoV-2 — 27 different morphologies in total. He uses an analogy: a donkey with a dildo strapped to its head is not a unicorn. He states: 'Viruses do not exist. It's as simple as that. Until you can prove that they do, the burden of proof is on the person making the positive claim.'

Kary Mullis and Controlled Opposition

Andrews presents a lengthy critique of Kary Mullis, the Nobel Prize-winning inventor of PCR, arguing he was controlled opposition rather than a genuine dissident:

• Mullis did not argue that HIV doesn't exist — rather, he proposed that AIDS was caused by 'latent retroviruses hanging around your body,' which Andrews says redirects the narrative back into germ theory and pharmaceutical paradigms.
• Mullis's pharmaceutical company received a $2 million investment from DARPA, and emails from David Rasnick show Mullis was working with Fauci while publicly criticising him, seeking $10–20 million to go independent.
• At the 2006 trial in South Africa of André Chad Parenzee (accused of transmitting HIV to three former partners), two factions emerged: the Perth Group (arguing HIV had never been proven to exist) and the Duesberg faction (labelled controlled opposition). The Duesberg faction displaced the Perth Group, brought in Mullis to testify that his PCR test could detect HIV, and Parenzee received an eight-year prison sentence.
• Peter Duesberg died after taking the COVID jab (subject to a mandate at UC Berkeley). Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos stated on her deathbed that David Crowe was responsible for destroying the Perth Group.

Controlled Opposition and Intent

Andrews estimates (self-described as a 'made-up statistic') that 95% of people pushing controlled-opposition narratives don't realise they're doing it — they are trapped by algorithm incentives, former professional conditioning, and social pressures. He uses the analogy of a Panopticon: dissidents on social media become slaves to the algorithm, gradually tailoring content to what performs well (e.g., Nigel Farage on a boat in the Channel), which channels them into controlled-narrative tramlines. He argues genuine infiltrators would need to be extraordinarily good method actors to sustain a deception over years of daily content creation. He proposes a scale of 0 (Jesus) to 10 (Hillary Clinton) for assessing complicity, urging the community to focus criticism on those near the 10 rather than attacking allies over minor disagreements. Delingpole cautions against imputing bad faith to everyone holding a partially wrong position, noting that most people have been brainwashed from birth by schools, universities, and media.

Both discuss their shift from viewing figures like Matt Ridley, Lord Monckton, and Nigel Lawson (founder of the Global Warming Policy Foundation) as allies in climate scepticism, to concluding they are part of the problem — that the GWPF props up the illusion that climate change is a debate about science rather than a deliberate deception by elites. Delingpole compares Ridley's The Rational Optimist to Harari's Homo Deus, suggesting it served as a 'vanilla gateway drug' to the same scientism/World Economic Forum agenda.

Political Views

• Delingpole: Now disengages from politics entirely. He previously self-defined as a 'libertarian conservative' but now regards left/right as 'artificial divides, part of divide and rule.' He considers all parties compromised and believes voting makes no difference. His solution is to opt out.
• Andrews: Identifies as an anarchist — he doesn't believe in politics, rulers, or borders. He recounts working at age 18 for Ashford Borough Council's Asylum Seekers Bureau, where he logged expenditure on Excel spreadsheets. He claims unaccompanied minors received £4,000–£5,000 per month, and that the expenses system was a 'free-for-all.' He argues the asylum issue is fabricated — without state benefits, nobody would cross Europe to reach Dover. He cites France's privately owned motorways as evidence that government is not needed to maintain infrastructure.
• Both agree that taxation's purpose is to remove freedoms rather than fund services, since governments can print money.

Self-Sufficiency and Ethanol as Fuel

Andrews presents his 'patent' (unpaid) for running vehicles on 99% water: brew alcohol from water, sugar, and yeast, then convert a petrol engine by changing the injectors to deliver ~30% more fuel. Conversion kits cost a couple of hundred pounds. He notes that France sells E85 at nearly every petrol station, Brazil runs 95% of its cars on ethanol, and race cars commonly use pure ethanol for higher octane. He argues US Prohibition was designed to prevent people brewing alcohol to fuel their cars, coinciding with the Ford Model T era. He claims oil is not from 'dinosaur bones' but is a continuously regenerated product of biomass being compressed underground, citing peat extraction in Ireland and Scotland as evidence. He dismisses Stanley Meyer's water-powered car as controlled opposition (it is really a hydrogen car requiring electrolysis and a battery source) and similarly dismisses free energy/over-unity devices (e.g., Bedini motors) as controlled movements — after five years of experimentation, he concluded they can light an LED at most, at a cost of £300–400 in materials.

Additional Notable Claims

• Chemotherapy: He characterises it as 'mustard gas that was used in trench warfare in World War One,' framing the oncology pipeline as an 'allopathic conveyor belt of death and disease.'
• Jonathan Van Tam: Andrews claims his grandfather was a eugenicist in Vietnam responsible for genocide ('the Tiger of Vietnam'), and that Van Tam oversaw a trial where purified SARS-CoV-2 was administered to healthy people's noses with no effect — one subject complained more about her visor chafing her forehead than about any viral symptoms.
• Cell biology: Andrews claims the entire model of cell biology taught since the 1800s–1900s — mitochondria, ATP, the Golgi apparatus — is 'bollocks.' He argues cells are simple structures ('like a battery') that can be frozen and regrown, which wouldn't be possible if they were genuinely complex.

Where to Find Andrews's Work

• Substack: Control Studies — all studies, experiments, and write-ups published there for free.
• Twitter/X: Handle offered to be shared after the interview, following three suspensions.

All points above are drawn directly from the transcript. Sponsor content (Monetary Metals, the Watermelons book promotion, and the closing subscription appeals) has been omitted as requested.