Ole on Olof Palme

Source: transcript of a video interview (Michael Jaco, Unleash and Intuition Secrets, with Ole Dammegård of Light on Conspiracies). Internal references (the 2022 Almedalen stabbing, “37 years” since 1986, remarks about Pelosi/Feinstein/Biden) suggest the recording dates from around 2023, though no date is stated in the transcript.

Click for the full interview - notes and summary below

1. Overview

Dammegård says the interview’s centrepiece is what he calls a “major breakthrough” in the 1986 assassination of Swedish Prime Minister Olof Palme — specifically a theory that Palme arranged his own murder (because he had contracted HIV/AIDS) to be transformed into a martyr, and that the plan went catastrophically wrong when a second, NATO-linked hit team intervened and the intended fake shooting used live ammunition. He links this to the Gladio/“stay-behind” networks, to a claimed pattern of staged terror attacks and mass shootings in NATO countries, to the JFK assassination, and — most speculatively — to the 2003 murder of Swedish Foreign Minister Anna Lindh.

2. How he became involved

Point	Detail as given
Timing	He moved to Stockholm about a year after the 28 February 1986 killing, to investigate.
Day job	Worked as a bus driver in Stockholm while researching.
Network	Joined a small group of retired lawyers, police officers and security people he calls “the private investigators”, who he says were dismissed as cranks.
Method	“Hundreds and hundreds of hours” interviewing them and collecting their material.
Output	A self-published book of almost 1,000 pages in 2005, which he says a Swedish agent told him was “a bomb of truth” and “you’ll never get it published”.

He describes the Palme case as structurally similar to JFK, MLK and RFK — not in the shooting itself but in the “non-investigation”: witnesses harassed, real evidence neglected, and a trail of convenient deaths. His examples: the coroner and his wife allegedly committing suicide on the same day (reported as a “Romeo and Juliet” suicide), and several journalists killed — in car accidents, and one pushed in front of a subway train.

3. His central thesis on Palme

Dammegård argues the official “lone crazed gunman who mistook Palme for his drug dealer” story is a cover for something else entirely:

Motive for self-arrangement: he says Palme had become HIV-positive in the early 1980s and that, by 1985–86, the illness was becoming visible. Death by assassination would preserve his reputation and turn him into a legend, while allowing him to leave the country and receive treatment.
The exit plan: a body double and a double for his wife would be shot “outside the former stay-behind headquarters”, while the real Palme was taken away and flown out on one of President Mitterrand’s private Learjets to southern Europe to live in luxury. He names Shirley MacLaine and Emma Rothschild as women who would have visited him.
Political dividend: the Social Democrats would gain sympathy as martyrs rather than collapse in scandal.
Why it went wrong: in his last nine months Palme turned against his former associates, he says — halting a gunpowder shipment to East Germany destined for the Iran–Iraq war, telling George Bush Sr to “fuck off”, and having Oliver North thrown out of Stockholm when he came to obtain signatures. Palme allegedly warned: “If you don’t back off, I’m going to nail you and everyone else included.”
Other friction points he lists: a planned March 1986 meeting with Gorbachev; a proposed nuclear-weapons-free zone in Scandinavia (which would keep US nuclear submarines out of the Baltic); and an arms deal with Rajiv Gandhi worth 8 billion Swedish kronor, said to include 235 kg of weapons-grade uranium from the Forsmark nuclear plant.

4. The Gladio / “stay-behind” explanation

This is the structural backbone of his argument, and he calls the Palme case “the world’s biggest murder mystery”.

What it is: after the Second World War, NATO required member states to build a clandestine “ghost army” of small cells (six to ten people), with buried weapons, explosives, radios, food and maps, plus a parallel structure of political, police and business figures. Heads of state could “bugger off to London” and activate a fully armed resistance network.
Names: “Gladio” is the Italian name; in Denmark it was called “Absalon”. He says his own family on both sides was involved in building the Danish network.
Scale: he cites the 1990 Italian scandal, in which more than 10,000 people were said to be involved, up to and including the prime minister, organised in compartmentalised cells so no one saw the whole picture.
Never disbanded: he rejects the official position that these networks were stood down in the 1990s, describing the pattern as: exposure → apology → apparent abolition → quiet reactivation under new names.
Palme’s links: he says the Skandia insurance building in central Stockholm — the site of the shooting — was the former stay-behind headquarters, complete with tunnels, and that Palme had worked in military intelligence from the start of his career. He also alleges family connections to IG Farben (an uncle tried at Nuremberg), to the Kim Philby spy circle, and to bankers who funded Lenin’s passage through Sweden.

He extends the thesis to terrorism: he claims that in “hundreds” of attacks and mass shootings he has examined, he finds not Islamist networks but NATO-linked sleeper cells, the CIA, Mossad and local intelligence, concentrated in NATO or “Five Eyes”-type countries, and often in the same police districts (Paris’s 11th arrondissement for both the Bataclan and Charlie Hebdo attacks, for example). His “global tour of terror” model: a travelling company of crisis actors, directors and pyrotechnicians flown in on C-130s to military airfields after dark, a “security drill” that clears the public and generates HD footage, and the attack staged the next day in matching weather so drill and live footage blend — which is why, in his words, there is never a terror attack on a rainy day. Afterwards casualties are loaded onto buses rather than ambulances to keep them from being questioned, and the team flies to the next city.

5. The plot as he reconstructs it (28 February 1986)

Element	His account
Hit team	Recruited from South Africa via Major Craig Williamson, trained at “Daisy Farm” outside Johannesburg — used because the sponsors could not risk their own people being able to blackmail them later.
Local fixer	A “Swedish James Bond”, named as Gustav Östling, to supply weapons, transport and logistics — and, crucially, to swap the ammunition for blanks at the last moment.
Reconnaissance	The team was in Stockholm for three to four weeks, mapping his movements; Palme allegedly knew they were there.
Site	Chosen in advance: outside the Skandia building, former stay-behind headquarters in central Stockholm.
Timing	A Friday — he argues major operations are staged on Fridays so that markets can be closed for three days while incriminating trading records are erased. He says the Palme killing came near the Swedish market’s all-time high, and JFK’s at the all-time high in the US.
Venue	The cinema gave the hit team a guaranteed 90 minutes to get into position.
Atmosphere	Multiple escape cars, unused police cars and radios, and between 50 and 200 people with walkie-talkies observed around the cinema and his home.
The second team	He claims NATO held “cosmic top secret” meetings in Wiltshire, England, decided Palme had to be taken out, flew in its own team, discovered another team already in place, and went “stealth” — positioning snipers on the far side of the street to ensure the killing succeeded and the cover-up fell apart in the other team’s hands.

6. What he says went wrong

The ammunition swap nearly failed. The man tasked with swapping blanks for live rounds was rushed into hospital with appendicitis. He came round, realised the date, left the operating table and ran to the scene — and did manage to swap the ammunition for the designated shooter (named in the transcript as “Antti Afsan”, described as now a senior judge and politician in Sweden).
The shooter was recognised minutes beforehand. Two Finnish-speaking women asked him the time; they heard a walkie-talkie under his arm say “they’re coming”, and heard him ask what to do, and the reply (in Finnish) “don’t worry, just do what you have to do”. They assumed a drug deal and crossed the street; then heard two shots. One of the women later died in unexplained circumstances. Dammegård concludes that, because he had been recognised, the shooter was replaced by someone carrying live ammunition.
The substitution happened behind a triangular advertising hoarding about 30 metres from the killing point, with the lighting in the area tampered with and few people about (winter holiday, after 11pm).
Two shooters, two directions. He says the replacement shooter (operation name “Abdul Qasem”) fired into the victim’s back at the same instant a silenced, small-calibre high-velocity sniper round struck from the front, killing him instantly. A second shot at the wife missed.
The getaway was immediate and uncontested — no police activity for hours; participants left the next day on diplomatic passports, and the shooter was allegedly held for three days in a villa in Björklinge before being flown out.
The intended “patsy” was to have been killed at the scene so the case would be closed before dawn. Instead the ambulance crew found a body that was not supposed to be dead, with two bullet wounds from opposite directions — which, in his account, launched four decades of frantic cover-up and the world’s most expensive murder investigation (he puts the cost at 2 billion Swedish kronor), which has produced nothing but successive patsies.

7. His JFK digression

Jaco prompts a comparison, and Dammegård sets out his reading of Dealey Plaza:

Multiple teams; he places Charles “Chuckie” Nicoletti as shooter and Tony Izquierdo as spotter in the Daltex building, with “Hale Braden” letting them in at the back.
James Files as the shooter behind the picket fence, activated at a few hours’ notice because Johnny Roselli “chickened out”; Files reportedly drove off in a maroon Chevrolet with Nicoletti and Roselli.
A further shot, in his view, came from a storm drain, aimed at a shooter positioned under the manhole cover — the “shooters trying to stop shooters” idea he also applies to Tosh Plumlee’s account of a team flown in to prevent the assassination.
The presidential limousine came to a full stop under fire, which he calls the opposite of correct protective procedure and evidence that driver Bill Greer and Roy Kellerman were complicit — “are we talking about MK Ultra or what the hell went on?”
He flags one inconsistency in his own sources: Roselli is placed both in the Daltex building and, per Rod McKenzie, at Parkland Hospital when the shots were heard.

8. His Anna Lindh claim (presented as speculation)

He says the Swedish Foreign Minister Anna Lindh — whom he describes as Palme’s illegitimate daughter, an “open secret on the inside” — was stabbed in a Stockholm department store in 2003 and died on 11 September, at a moment when Sweden was being pushed to adopt the euro. He argues the killing was a staged “emotional” intervention to swing a referendum, drawing a line to the later murder of Jo Cox in the UK.

He then links this to the 2022 stabbing at Sweden’s political week on Gotland of Ing-Marie Wieselgren, head of the Swedish psychiatric service, and claims — on the basis of facial features, height, teeth, haircut and reconstructed biography — that Wieselgren and Lindh are the same person, “recycled”. He says he has circulated photo comparisons and wants help with voice analysis, and he speculates that Anna Lindh also doubled for Lisbeth Palme in 1986. He offers no documentary proof for any of this, and the transcript’s own phrasing (“I would not be surprised”, “I think”) marks it as conjecture.

Related smaller claims in the same passage: that the inconsistent spelling of “Lisbeth” (with and without the h) in case documents may have been a device to distinguish the real wife from a double; and that Lisbeth Palme was the only key witness absent from the crime-scene reconstruction, because people would have seen she was not the same woman.

9. Assorted claims, and the closing segment

AIDS: he describes HIV/AIDS as “a bio-weapon of mass destruction” created by Robert Gallo and others with US military funding, and repeats the claim that the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings were firebombings rather than nuclear attacks. He speculates Palme may have been infected deliberately, saying only “why he was hit I’m not sure”, and notes that his associate Ebbe Carlsson (a young publisher he links to Gladio’s Brussels-level command) and others in Palme’s circle died of AIDS-related illness.
Institutions: he argues bodies such as the CDC are “the Centre of Disease Creation”, holding patents and generating fear; and that organisations are systematically created “to deal with problems created by them”.
Sweden as a test bed: cashless society, microchipping, central banks — “they test things in Sweden” because the population is compliant.
Prediction policing: he claims the post-2022 Scandinavian attacks are designed to sell the argument that police should be able to act on suspicion alone — a “minority report” shift.
Speculation about disappearances: Jaco raises Pelosi, Feinstein and Biden as figures given “an out”; Dammegård agrees the witness-protection/new-identity apparatus he describes could be used that way, and mentions gated former-asset communities that Google Maps will not show.
Media literacy: his closing pitch is that once you learn the pattern of one operation you can spot the rest — “that stinks, I don’t trust that one”.